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		<title>By: Jody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 15:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To add...  I just saw a story about a young girl who linked all but one U.S. president to a single ancestor because, unlike prior genealogists who only follow the male side, she looked at both the maternal and paternal family trees.  I suppose it&#039;s no surprise it took a little girl to do something so reasonable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To add&#8230;  I just saw a story about a young girl who linked all but one U.S. president to a single ancestor because, unlike prior genealogists who only follow the male side, she looked at both the maternal and paternal family trees.  I suppose it&#8217;s no surprise it took a little girl to do something so reasonable.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and just to counter daveb&#039;s comment, I would like to point out a few things.

Marriage is a male invention.  Men invented it, and have perpetuated the concept for centuries, long before women in this country got the vote, and in countries where women still have no rights.  

Married men are happier and live longer than single men.  It&#039;s the opposite for women.  

The notion that women originated the idea of marriage, and that men are averse to it, is little more than male-devised propaganda.  Only the brainwashed fall for that nonsense.  Just a minute or two of historical research will prove the manly origins of marriage.

In my own case, I never wanted to get married.  It took several years of convincing, but finally I agreed to do it.  After all, I wasn&#039;t opposed to marriage, and it was important to my husband.  So, I agreed.  Then, I really only wanted to go to city hall.  But HE wanted an actual wedding.  Again, since I wasn&#039;t &quot;opposed&quot; to having a wedding, I agreed to it.  I would have been happy just living together for the rest of our lives, though.

Before anyone concludes he&#039;s wussy or not &quot;manly&quot; (whatever that means), I must say he is a spectacular example of manhood.  As an independent, self-sufficient woman, I&#039;ve only been interested in a counterpart, of sorts.  ...Someone different from me, as a partner.  My husband is successful, well-educated, positively huge and strong (just under seven feet and over three-hundred pounds).  He&#039;s never been in a fist fight partly, I think, because other men simply respect him.  He&#039;s confident, but not arrogant.  He&#039;s good-natured and considerate.  He isn&#039;t trying to prove anything to anyone.  It&#039;s one of the qualities I find most attractive; that quiet confidence.

When he asked about an engagement ring, I stipulated that I didn&#039;t want some big, gauche, sweater-catcher.  We agreed on an eternity band from Tiffany&#039;s.  ...A ring of perfect, little stones, for about $2,500.  I couldn&#039;t love a ring more than I do my engagement ring.  Our wedding bands are matching gold and platinum.

Now, after all that, we are exceedingly traditional, in this day and age.  I owned my own business when we first got together.  He soon joined as a partner, then I retired to stay at home and keep a spotless home, manicured gardens, etc.  ...Things we both appreciate.  

I have always expected (appreciated) men to open doors, pull out chairs, etc.  It&#039;s not that they were bad guys if they didn&#039;t do that, just not the one for me.  That said, I had to teach this to my husband, and he was good enough to accept that it was important to me.

So, a woman who kept her own name, didn&#039;t want to get married or have a wedding, is also a homemaker and expects her husband to open doors, or stand when she enters a room.  

The world, it seems, is full of individuals, where generalizations rarely hold true at the personal level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and just to counter daveb&#8217;s comment, I would like to point out a few things.</p>
<p>Marriage is a male invention.  Men invented it, and have perpetuated the concept for centuries, long before women in this country got the vote, and in countries where women still have no rights.  </p>
<p>Married men are happier and live longer than single men.  It&#8217;s the opposite for women.  </p>
<p>The notion that women originated the idea of marriage, and that men are averse to it, is little more than male-devised propaganda.  Only the brainwashed fall for that nonsense.  Just a minute or two of historical research will prove the manly origins of marriage.</p>
<p>In my own case, I never wanted to get married.  It took several years of convincing, but finally I agreed to do it.  After all, I wasn&#8217;t opposed to marriage, and it was important to my husband.  So, I agreed.  Then, I really only wanted to go to city hall.  But HE wanted an actual wedding.  Again, since I wasn&#8217;t &#8220;opposed&#8221; to having a wedding, I agreed to it.  I would have been happy just living together for the rest of our lives, though.</p>
<p>Before anyone concludes he&#8217;s wussy or not &#8220;manly&#8221; (whatever that means), I must say he is a spectacular example of manhood.  As an independent, self-sufficient woman, I&#8217;ve only been interested in a counterpart, of sorts.  &#8230;Someone different from me, as a partner.  My husband is successful, well-educated, positively huge and strong (just under seven feet and over three-hundred pounds).  He&#8217;s never been in a fist fight partly, I think, because other men simply respect him.  He&#8217;s confident, but not arrogant.  He&#8217;s good-natured and considerate.  He isn&#8217;t trying to prove anything to anyone.  It&#8217;s one of the qualities I find most attractive; that quiet confidence.</p>
<p>When he asked about an engagement ring, I stipulated that I didn&#8217;t want some big, gauche, sweater-catcher.  We agreed on an eternity band from Tiffany&#8217;s.  &#8230;A ring of perfect, little stones, for about $2,500.  I couldn&#8217;t love a ring more than I do my engagement ring.  Our wedding bands are matching gold and platinum.</p>
<p>Now, after all that, we are exceedingly traditional, in this day and age.  I owned my own business when we first got together.  He soon joined as a partner, then I retired to stay at home and keep a spotless home, manicured gardens, etc.  &#8230;Things we both appreciate.  </p>
<p>I have always expected (appreciated) men to open doors, pull out chairs, etc.  It&#8217;s not that they were bad guys if they didn&#8217;t do that, just not the one for me.  That said, I had to teach this to my husband, and he was good enough to accept that it was important to me.</p>
<p>So, a woman who kept her own name, didn&#8217;t want to get married or have a wedding, is also a homemaker and expects her husband to open doors, or stand when she enters a room.  </p>
<p>The world, it seems, is full of individuals, where generalizations rarely hold true at the personal level.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, vivi...I have a question for you.  In my family, it would be completely inappropriate to open mail that is not specifically addressed to you.  We write both the husband&#039;s and wife&#039;s name on an envelope, so they know it would be acceptable for either to open it.  If I write to my sister, for exmple, and address a letter to her alone, I would be very annoyed if her husband opened the letter and read it, and vice versa.  I don&#039;t open my husband&#039;s personal mail, nor does he, mine.  (Bills are another story.  We don&#039;t care either way, when it comes to bills.)  

I&#039;m not sure I understand how the wife knows which letters are meant only for her husband and which are meant for them both, if just the husband&#039;s name traditionally appears on the envelope.  (And, believe me, I understand, this is not a big deal in most households.  I&#039;m just curious, as personal privacy is a big deal to me.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, vivi&#8230;I have a question for you.  In my family, it would be completely inappropriate to open mail that is not specifically addressed to you.  We write both the husband&#8217;s and wife&#8217;s name on an envelope, so they know it would be acceptable for either to open it.  If I write to my sister, for exmple, and address a letter to her alone, I would be very annoyed if her husband opened the letter and read it, and vice versa.  I don&#8217;t open my husband&#8217;s personal mail, nor does he, mine.  (Bills are another story.  We don&#8217;t care either way, when it comes to bills.)  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I understand how the wife knows which letters are meant only for her husband and which are meant for them both, if just the husband&#8217;s name traditionally appears on the envelope.  (And, believe me, I understand, this is not a big deal in most households.  I&#8217;m just curious, as personal privacy is a big deal to me.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m contemplating taking my husband&#039;s last name.  (We just celebrated our 15th anniversary.)  I recently asked how he&#039;d feel about that and, to my surprise, answered, &quot;It would be nice.&quot;  (We both burst into laughter immediately afterward.)   It&#039;s so unlike him to have such traditional leanings.  To date, he&#039;s only ever encouraged me to do what I wanted...with a slight slant toward me taking his name.

We don&#039;t have children, so I&#039;ve never bothered.  Like many others have said, it would be easier if everyone in the family had the same last name.  But with it just being the two of us, there doesn&#039;t seem to be much incentive to change my name.  

A friend of mine is a professional woman, and didn&#039;t change her name.  I&#039;m betting she&#039;s glad she didn&#039;t, now that, five years later, she and her husband are getting divorced.  

I have to say that, for me, the question of changing my name to my husband&#039;s is nearly identical to asking him to change his name to mine.  The only difference is tradition, and the likely negative reactions from other men...who&#039;ll view him as weak.  I don&#039;t feel weak for considering changing my name to his, so....  (Men can be so fragile.)  Don&#039;t get me wrong, though.  My husband is his own man.  Other men don&#039;t even really challenge him.  He&#039;s professionally successful, and physically spectacular...and huge...so he simply gets respect from other men.  

The other issue is that of pronunciation and spelling.  My last name is a good, ol&#039; fashioned English name.  ...Easy to spell.  ...Easy to pronounce.  My husband&#039;s last name is longer, two words, and difficult for English-speakers to pronounce.  Several years ago,  we bought a mattress from Sears, and my husband jokingly put down the delivery information in my name, but with his last name.  Sure enough, a couple of days later, the deliverymen called to make sure I was home, and began the call with, &quot;Hello.  May I speak to Jody... (long pause)  ...stammering...  ...more stammering...  ...finally a bastardized version of my husband&#039;s name.  &quot;Close enough,&quot; I graciously replied.  That was my first (and obviously last) time electing to use my husband&#039;s last name, instead of my own.

Still, as I once again consider switching surnames, it would truly be my choice, at this point.  While I haven&#039;t had any backlash from family members so far, some insist on referring to me as Mrs. (my husband&#039;s name).  I find that a bit disrespectful.  It&#039;s so foreign to me, it&#039;s kind of like arbitrarily calling them by their neighbour&#039;s names.  They&#039;d be like, &#039;What?&#039;  That&#039;s how I feel when they do it.  

I also dislike marital clues in women&#039;s titles.  I have ALWAYS only ever used &quot;Ms.&quot; because, as a young woman, I felt it was nobody&#039;s business if I was married or not...like a man&#039;s title.  Since getting married, I&#039;ve stuck with &quot;Ms.&quot; for the same reason.

Anyway, I&#039;m glad to have come across this discussion.  ...Lots of interesting viewpoints and experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m contemplating taking my husband&#8217;s last name.  (We just celebrated our 15th anniversary.)  I recently asked how he&#8217;d feel about that and, to my surprise, answered, &#8220;It would be nice.&#8221;  (We both burst into laughter immediately afterward.)   It&#8217;s so unlike him to have such traditional leanings.  To date, he&#8217;s only ever encouraged me to do what I wanted&#8230;with a slight slant toward me taking his name.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t have children, so I&#8217;ve never bothered.  Like many others have said, it would be easier if everyone in the family had the same last name.  But with it just being the two of us, there doesn&#8217;t seem to be much incentive to change my name.  </p>
<p>A friend of mine is a professional woman, and didn&#8217;t change her name.  I&#8217;m betting she&#8217;s glad she didn&#8217;t, now that, five years later, she and her husband are getting divorced.  </p>
<p>I have to say that, for me, the question of changing my name to my husband&#8217;s is nearly identical to asking him to change his name to mine.  The only difference is tradition, and the likely negative reactions from other men&#8230;who&#8217;ll view him as weak.  I don&#8217;t feel weak for considering changing my name to his, so&#8230;.  (Men can be so fragile.)  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, though.  My husband is his own man.  Other men don&#8217;t even really challenge him.  He&#8217;s professionally successful, and physically spectacular&#8230;and huge&#8230;so he simply gets respect from other men.  </p>
<p>The other issue is that of pronunciation and spelling.  My last name is a good, ol&#8217; fashioned English name.  &#8230;Easy to spell.  &#8230;Easy to pronounce.  My husband&#8217;s last name is longer, two words, and difficult for English-speakers to pronounce.  Several years ago,  we bought a mattress from Sears, and my husband jokingly put down the delivery information in my name, but with his last name.  Sure enough, a couple of days later, the deliverymen called to make sure I was home, and began the call with, &#8220;Hello.  May I speak to Jody&#8230; (long pause)  &#8230;stammering&#8230;  &#8230;more stammering&#8230;  &#8230;finally a bastardized version of my husband&#8217;s name.  &#8220;Close enough,&#8221; I graciously replied.  That was my first (and obviously last) time electing to use my husband&#8217;s last name, instead of my own.</p>
<p>Still, as I once again consider switching surnames, it would truly be my choice, at this point.  While I haven&#8217;t had any backlash from family members so far, some insist on referring to me as Mrs. (my husband&#8217;s name).  I find that a bit disrespectful.  It&#8217;s so foreign to me, it&#8217;s kind of like arbitrarily calling them by their neighbour&#8217;s names.  They&#8217;d be like, &#8216;What?&#8217;  That&#8217;s how I feel when they do it.  </p>
<p>I also dislike marital clues in women&#8217;s titles.  I have ALWAYS only ever used &#8220;Ms.&#8221; because, as a young woman, I felt it was nobody&#8217;s business if I was married or not&#8230;like a man&#8217;s title.  Since getting married, I&#8217;ve stuck with &#8220;Ms.&#8221; for the same reason.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m glad to have come across this discussion.  &#8230;Lots of interesting viewpoints and experiences.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 12:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am baffled at what I&#039;m reading here from some posters.
Why would a woman wanting to keep the identity that she&#039;s had for 20 or 30 years mean that she&#039;s power hungry or selfish?
Why isn&#039;t that argument put forth about men who insist that women take their last name?
The patriarchy is alive and well, and it&#039;s very sad.

Let me present this option:  Feminism means that today, women have the power to choose whatever THEY want and whatever THEY feel comfortable with.  In the past women either legally had to take their husbands last name or the societal pressure was so great that she did not have another option.  Today, the pressure is still there, but given the strides women have taken towards equality - the choice is hers.

If you want your husbands last name - take it.  If you don&#039;t - keep yours.  If you want to combine them, do that.

The choice of a last name is very personal.  Shame on those of you who would control others.  Worry about yourself.  I&#039;m sure there are areas of YOUR life that need attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am baffled at what I&#8217;m reading here from some posters.<br />
Why would a woman wanting to keep the identity that she&#8217;s had for 20 or 30 years mean that she&#8217;s power hungry or selfish?<br />
Why isn&#8217;t that argument put forth about men who insist that women take their last name?<br />
The patriarchy is alive and well, and it&#8217;s very sad.</p>
<p>Let me present this option:  Feminism means that today, women have the power to choose whatever THEY want and whatever THEY feel comfortable with.  In the past women either legally had to take their husbands last name or the societal pressure was so great that she did not have another option.  Today, the pressure is still there, but given the strides women have taken towards equality &#8211; the choice is hers.</p>
<p>If you want your husbands last name &#8211; take it.  If you don&#8217;t &#8211; keep yours.  If you want to combine them, do that.</p>
<p>The choice of a last name is very personal.  Shame on those of you who would control others.  Worry about yourself.  I&#8217;m sure there are areas of YOUR life that need attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 01:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hilary, I don&#039;t think you realise how much of a #$&amp;* you sound. I&#039;m sure the fathers side love their grandson as much as your family so why don&#039;t YOU learn to deal with it you feminist slime? Give the guy a break. It really just sounds like you&#039;re taking advantage of your husbands good nature! I&#039;m not a traditional bloke in many senses but I am a firm believer that a married family unit should unite under one name, whether it&#039;s yours or his! My fiancée doesn&#039;t want to change her surname to mine because hers is unique and mine is common. However, we&#039;ve decided on taking the surname of each of our grandfathers, because conveniently, our grandfathers have the same surname . So it works nicely!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilary, I don&#8217;t think you realise how much of a #$&amp;* you sound. I&#8217;m sure the fathers side love their grandson as much as your family so why don&#8217;t YOU learn to deal with it you feminist slime? Give the guy a break. It really just sounds like you&#8217;re taking advantage of your husbands good nature! I&#8217;m not a traditional bloke in many senses but I am a firm believer that a married family unit should unite under one name, whether it&#8217;s yours or his! My fiancée doesn&#8217;t want to change her surname to mine because hers is unique and mine is common. However, we&#8217;ve decided on taking the surname of each of our grandfathers, because conveniently, our grandfathers have the same surname . So it works nicely!</p>
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		<title>By: vivi</title>
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		<dc:creator>vivi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 02:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m Spanish, so we don&#039;t have to decide about this. In Spain everybody have two surnames, the first is the father&#039;s and the second the mother&#039;s surname. So mothers NEVER have the same as their husbands or children. The only people who have the same two surnames are the brothers and sisters. So, this is the reason for us it&#039;s so strange the anglo saxon system. People in Spain never change their name in their entire lives and for us couples with the same surname seem to be brother and sister. It is more practical because it&#039;s very improbable to find someone named exactly like you. You also can name a child like her mother or father and they are never going to be confused because although they have the same first name one surname is different. English people have asked to me &quot;but how do you write the couple?&quot; like if it were a big problem. You simply could write to Fernandez Gonzalez family but we generally don&#039;t do that, we simply write one of the adults name with the address on the envelope and then we refer to the hole family in the text, beginning with a &quot;Hola a todos&quot; (Hello everybody)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m Spanish, so we don&#8217;t have to decide about this. In Spain everybody have two surnames, the first is the father&#8217;s and the second the mother&#8217;s surname. So mothers NEVER have the same as their husbands or children. The only people who have the same two surnames are the brothers and sisters. So, this is the reason for us it&#8217;s so strange the anglo saxon system. People in Spain never change their name in their entire lives and for us couples with the same surname seem to be brother and sister. It is more practical because it&#8217;s very improbable to find someone named exactly like you. You also can name a child like her mother or father and they are never going to be confused because although they have the same first name one surname is different. English people have asked to me &#8220;but how do you write the couple?&#8221; like if it were a big problem. You simply could write to Fernandez Gonzalez family but we generally don&#8217;t do that, we simply write one of the adults name with the address on the envelope and then we refer to the hole family in the text, beginning with a &#8220;Hola a todos&#8221; (Hello everybody)</p>
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		<title>By: Melinda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Adrianne on 12/15/08 - well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Adrianne on 12/15/08 &#8211; well said.</p>
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		<title>By: Melinda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Mark on 7/27 - very nice.</description>
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		<title>By: Melinda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and to Jenny on 1/13/10 - if your fiance is fine with whatever you decide, then go with what feels right to you and save yourself future worries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and to Jenny on 1/13/10 &#8211; if your fiance is fine with whatever you decide, then go with what feels right to you and save yourself future worries.</p>
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